zubkavich ([info]zubkavich) wrote,
@ 2006-07-13 10:48:00
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Redone Page 37
The original version of Makeshift page 37 is one of those pages that makes me cringe every time I see it:



Colby's run looks incredibly lame and the whole page looks rushed because.... well because it was. I really like the face in panel 2 but the other two panels just drive me bonkers. When I started figuring out how much work would be involved in remastering the pages for print, I knew I'd have to change that page or it would drive me crazy forever.

Figure drawing, a better understanding of dynamic movement, more time and stronger draftmanship... here's the results:



And here's the new version of the page as it will be in the book, complete with better lettering:



Obviously the other pages won't be as drastic as all that. :)

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[info]jrloafy
2006-07-13 03:19 pm UTC (link)
The new page is infinately stronger then the original. As much as I don't mind creators tinkering with their work it's always nice to have the original version as well. Might I suggest you include the original pages in the back of the book for the more drstically altered pages (such as this one) with explanations as to why you changed them as extras. Cause that would be nifty!

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[info]kyohazard
2006-07-13 03:22 pm UTC (link)
I find that happens a lot with me. I go back and look at work I did like a year ago and cring. :)

I can't remember if you mentioned it before or not, but who's publishing it? the same guys who are hosting it now?

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[info]zubkavich
2006-07-14 02:30 pm UTC (link)
Udon's publishing the book actually.

Although Udon Comics has been publishing anime-themed/commercial property stuff for some time now, we've also been diversifying our artwork and client base over the past few years. The potential of the book stores coupled with the business we already do at comic stores gives us more options.

Publishing other work by the artists at the studio is something we've been talking about for a while, so this is a good step in that direction.

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[info]howardtayler
2006-07-13 03:39 pm UTC (link)
I'm so totally NOT going to do that when I put the first 1000 strips of Schlock Mercenary into print. I'd have to re-draw the entire first 500 strips... and then the NEXT 500, because they'd clash.

You shame me, Jim.

*hides face and cries like a space-baby*

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[info]grafxman256
2006-07-13 06:08 pm UTC (link)
Why not? Willis is doing it with It's Walky! :P

(he's crazy!)

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[info]zubkavich
2006-07-13 06:28 pm UTC (link)
He is crazy. I'd rather spend my energies on new content, personally... barring this reformatting process.

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[info]daniel_olsen
2006-07-18 09:38 pm UTC (link)
Crazy indeed. But productively crazy. 0_o The guy has three strips a week plus the "as-it-comes" ItsWalky! redraw/compilations.

Its not even a question of quality vs quantity because the strips are different enough so that the quality or jokes doesn't crash.

But yes, CRAZY!

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[info]zubkavich
2006-07-14 02:31 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, but think about that for a sec, Howard... you just said "the first 1000 strips..."

1000 strips!

My whole graphic novel is 172 pages and you have a first 1000 strips! That's already an amazing chunk of work and you have much more beyond that.

Your dedication is mind-blowing and your strip kick all kinds of ass.

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[info]ssines
2006-07-13 03:56 pm UTC (link)
There are some advantages to having digital work - its easier to correct/augment in time. Then again don;t go all George Lucas on us - Colby definately shot first!

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[info]zubkavich
2006-07-13 06:27 pm UTC (link)
Actually, I forgot to mention that I'll be adding all new alien races, characters and subplots to the storyline. There will also be a new ewok song number at the end of Makeshift.

Makeshift Miracle is actually part 4 and will be renamed "A New Dream". The prequel will de-ball my villain completely and make him a whiney piece of shit.

It is my true definitive version of the story.

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[info]dextra
2006-07-13 04:09 pm UTC (link)
in the first one, i got the sense that the runner was reluctantly heading somewhere (with a slightly disjointed hip- which might explain the reluctance in haste), the way the arms were in particular, whereas in the "corrected" version, he's very determined, almost superheroic.

just sayin.

ps- nice chatting with you via jake yesterday. should we get our friend to get in touch with you re. ride to gen con?

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[info]zubkavich
2006-07-13 06:25 pm UTC (link)
Colby will be pulling back the shirt to reveal the Superman 'S' momentarily. ;)

Ray should be e-mailing you guys today. If he doesn't I'll pass you his phone info and vice versa.

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[info]bezman
2006-07-13 04:23 pm UTC (link)
The figure is obviously a much more 'accurate' drawing 2nd time around, but I kinda prefer the colours of v1.

Is that a choice made for preference or because you had to change the colours for print?

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[info]zubkavich
2006-07-13 06:23 pm UTC (link)
Not to get too technical, but greens and blues distort really heavily when you go from RGB (screen colors) format to CMYK (print colors) format. The green color change is from that.

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[info]euthrecyti
2006-07-13 04:58 pm UTC (link)
Woot! The incredible joys of revisions, ne?
I can't wait to see your finished (and updated) work in print.

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[info]lizgreenfield
2006-07-13 06:04 pm UTC (link)
Yesss, long live redrawing pages until it makes you go flipping-heck-insane!

Amazing improvement, especially on the running kid.

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[info]zubkavich
2006-07-13 06:22 pm UTC (link)
Thanks. Obviously all the pages I could "do better" but I'm only redrawing a few that really drive me up the wall.

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[info]superjoe
2006-07-14 01:33 pm UTC (link)
Not bad at all. The close up of the door works much better than the previous shot.

As for the running guy (no I don't know his name) he is tons better. Still a bit wonky, obviously, at least to me. His hip still looks a bit out of place. And I know you're trying to be dramatic, but I find his front hand a tiny bit large. It looks like it grew and then tried to punch him in the face. You didn't use a reference for this, did you? I would reccomend it.

The jacket's billowy aspect is nice. It would have been nicer to see it extend to the other clothes. With the amount of momentum seemingly conveyed, it probably would. If not in the legs so much, at least in the mid to lower shirt.

And the hip displacement sort of makes the torso seem too long. There, that's everything that I can find wrong with it. It way beats the other one, which was totally weak and I can't believe came from you.

Oh, and PS: I like actually like the print colours MORE.

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[info]zubkavich
2006-07-14 02:26 pm UTC (link)
Psst... his name is Colby. It's right in the text that goes with the post about the redone art.

Thanks for the other feedback. I don't agree with all of it, but the fact that you took the time to put your thoughts down about it is appreciated.

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[info]superjoe
2006-07-14 06:04 pm UTC (link)
But glossing over names is one of the things I do best.
Anyhow, I've started giving people a lot more feedback on arty stuff these days. I don't know why, but I sort of like doing it. And I like getting it, so I'll keep assuming other people do too. So you're welcome.

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[info]derrick_fish
2006-09-30 03:24 am UTC (link)
I just found out that you're bringing the MAKESHIFT MIRACLE to print thanks to the link on PVP and it's filled me with glee! I LOVED the comic when it first came out and can't WAIT to hold it in my grubby mitts and really sink into it all over again. Good work!

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[info]zubkavich
2006-10-01 01:39 am UTC (link)
Thanks for the praise and support. Scott's news post about the book has been a fantastic way to bring back old readers and get new people on board the story.

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